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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
索金的话唠电影，政治倾向鲜明，好莱坞标准产品，因为太标准，所以总是不错看的，剧本，剪辑，群戏，法庭戏都在合格标准以上，当科普也是不错的，政治宣言本身~~~咱啥都不懂，啥都不说。
“It has been years since I had no ideas what was going on.”
the world is watching
3.5。我还挺喜欢这片，可能是源于特定时间的一些价值认同？但其实，这样的叙述以及正反强烈对比给我造成了一种看爽片的感觉，看完之后只剩下激动了，这与之前的预期存在着一定的落差，不知道是好是坏，也可能只是方向不同吧。
Tom Hayden
艾伦索金式的主旋律正能量。厉害的编剧技巧把复杂的历史事件讲得通俗易懂，虽然情节上设计感很强，但台词的能量搭配演员们的演绎让整个故事看得“爽”。剪辑完全服务于剧情了，看得时候不免会想如果还是斯皮尔伯格拍或者交给大卫芬奇会是怎样一番面貌。又一次标准且优秀的剧本模板。
7.5/10 把白左打在每一幀裡的片。節奏太舒服了，但是索金還是太踏實，少一絲靈韻，稍微照本宣科了一點；畢竟這個演員班底是可以飄一飄玩票大的。
不过群众对抗体制的“二元论”类型片真的是完美戳我个人的G点
外国的月亮圆不圆也不好说，但是起码能把月亮给你看呀。
Over dramatized, over political, over biased. The editing is not good either.
当更多人愿意动脑的时候，世界才会趋向和平。
2020，距离片中的年代有50年了，这一年美国的抗争比片中更激烈，因疫情死亡的人接近越战死亡人数的十倍。理想是好的，抗争是对的，可是抗争要意识到社会的主要矛盾，要知道真正的问题在哪儿，真正的敌人是谁，否则无论是几年一换，只换汤不换药，也是没有用的。
怪不得节奏这么《社交网络》，原来是索金。学生要么无勇，要么莽勇，有文化的嬉皮士是最佳被告。人物设置有《洛城机密》的味道，代表公正的最偏见，代表无纪律的最人文，代表高知的最冲动，坚持非暴力的给法庭来一拳。最讽刺的是，你像电影中酒吧里的人一样以为活在和平年代。
虽然知道主旋律，但是还是看得很燃。能感觉到艾伦索金的编剧功力，有张有弛，比如our blodd, Abby在公堂上就是不说，憋死我了。但是也正因为此有点过于匠气（明显是鸡蛋里挑骨头）
国家机器总有一种绞杀民间思想的欲望，即使是号称最民主的“米国”。
四星半，种族、女权、反战一锅端，很有奥斯卡相，如果不是结尾的“好莱坞式”结局，可以给五星。萨沙拜伦科恩不搞笑起来也挺有魅力的。
让我们都诚实一点，既然是要借酒杯浇块垒，片尾最主旋律的美国价值就应当退离于法庭之外。因为违法与否，量刑多少，与动机是否出于爱国并无关系，与共和党是否真的总是会选派迂腐可笑的权力单元也没有关系。索金太精明了，他可以点出文化革命与建构派本质上的内在矛盾性，却翻手之间用动机上的共情将左派捆绑在一起。片叶不沾身呀。但身处左右如此对立的当下，我们真的需要你来告诉大家谁更无辜吗？我们在等待一种解决的可能性，一种已知暴力冲突来自随机波动，但势能退潮必须跟随政治手段的理性途径。煽动我没有用，我只会更难过。btw音乐烂爆了。
“异议是爱国的最高形式”(Dissent is the highest form of patriotism)——美国第三任总统汤托马斯·杰斐逊。
公知笔下的灯塔国🇺🇸可真是老police state了，民主沦为政治工具since forever。
密集喷薄的台词所带来的并不是语言的力量，反倒是凸显出一种沟通的无力感和无效化。话语中的理性再大声亦是听而不闻，偶尔嘀咕的情绪性再小声也会被准确捕捉，事实不再由话语的真伪决定，而取决于人数多少。语言不再是交流的介质，从权利变成了权力，变成了立场的工具。“黑场”的处理也由此生出了一种“说这么多也没用，索性不说了”的感觉，大家来拼口号跟行动吧，毕竟The Whole World is Watching——一种公道自在人心的理想和信任。
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