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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
戏中戏多少有些好笑又心酸…哈维傻白甜迷弟真的太可爱…期待凯奇下一部水准之作。
是枝裕和有个强项，能把小场景对手戏拍的既有张力又十分细腻，这次的洗车间、忽明忽暗的火车隧道、摩天轮，都是角色转变的关键场景，而且他听不懂韩语，拍摄时的注意力应该会降低听觉权重，提高视觉权重，也就是盯表演。但是演员们表演都很游离，宋康昊也没什么发挥空间，怎么拿的戛纳影帝？当然，故事内核还是很好。
3.5星，前面觉得尼古拉斯凯奇自己演自己这个创意很有意思，到后面主线剧情反而俗了。凯奇还是那么疯，是让人想到《我心狂野》的那种疯。啊我是真的不喜欢《帕丁顿熊2》TAT
故事并不新鲜，小偷家族的味道，只是更平淡漫长
故事的冲突平淡了许多，像是疲惫的是枝裕和随口说出来的陈词滥调。
虽然故事一直很平很平很平很平，但还是被黑灯瞎火的那句台词戳到了……可能这就是是枝裕和的魔力吧……
是枝裕和继偷出来的亲情后，又拍了种卖出来的亲情。
是枝裕和二十年反反复复讲同样的故事主题，在《小偷家族》之后到了这部同质化严重的《掮客》，更腻了…始于能深刻探讨的东亚议题，终还是流于表面。它拍成了鸡汤童话，无论是人设还是故事，都极其平庸。完全置于真善美的大背景下，几个角色形象缺乏立体，没有弧光，看不出变化，情感的转折与彼此的连结也无比薄弱，部分场景的台词令行为动机难以理解（例如天台与警察对峙堕胎那段，力不从心），因此主题根本得不到深化，与观众的共鸣完全脱节。
PS.祝贺宋康昊拿影帝了！
其实是枝裕和本可以选择拍一部：1）血缘家庭；2）类型内部拓展；3）类型外部融合 三条路任选一条，哪怕加一个国外debuff，结果都不会太惨，但最后他选择了非血缘家庭概念拓展并类型融合，而且在海外，四个debuff直接把自己玩儿死了。
7/10。韩影还是找韩国导演吧，当女主飙脏话的时候，刻板印象的觉得格格不入，不适合日影温和的节奏，更不适合温和的是枝裕和。
凯奇的片子其实我还蛮喜欢的，06年左右看的变脸和战争之王。后来，隐约听到他烂片之王啥的。确实有几个片子什么预见未来之类的，真的很不咋地。片中也吐槽了，就是个工作而已，我一直在工作有什么错。
不要在說教煽情了啦，2022了老師，拼裝家族這一套真的不是很奏效了，簡直是童話世界的夢幻家庭，大家都有夠善良和善的，最後女刑警的轉變也是很無力。演員也沒有那麼撐得起來故事，真是遺憾
也算是可爱的。结尾女儿问有没有人看过《帕丁顿熊2》，已经看过的凯奇什么也没说，只是陪着再看了一遍。这个片段dejavu了。谁没在爱的人面前撒过几个温柔的谎呢 ★★★☆
PS.祝贺宋康昊拿影帝了！
哈哈哈哈哈哈哈！space sister！
三星剧本，但冲着情怀多一星。里边有很多致敬凯奇早年经典作品的梗，还挺亲切的，能看出导演还是挺有野心的，但影片调度和对剧本的挖掘还是有些平庸，幽默也只靠碎片的段子化表演来呈现，效果差强人意。不管怎么样，作为影迷看到凯奇新作还是蛮开心的。
从来没有喜欢过是枝裕和，包括海街和小偷。现在我终于明白了，对社会失望却对人温情的他，只适合彻头彻尾的童话，并在童话中探讨没有结论的社会/哲理议题。在用「父忧母难」形容新生命的诞生并情感道德双重绑架了子女长达千年的东亚社会，「感谢你被我生出来」是颠覆性的宣言，也是我的泪崩点。
是枝裕和重复自己《小偷家族》里同样的命题——拼凑起的家庭是否也有真挚的感情，残破的角落里是否也能开出绚丽的花朵。其实每个人都是互相对应，充斥着难以言说的经历，生活底层的他们在人性的边缘徘徊，追踪的警察在人性与职责之间挣扎；男二在与抛弃孩子的女主的经历中，与抛弃自己的母亲和解；而女主在罪恶感与责任感之间渴望给孩子一个最好的家。“谢谢你来到这世上”也许是最温存的祝福。好的地方是一如既往的，其实并没有水土不服，只是在重复自己，以致于看之前就猜到大致剧情走向了。
片子主题跟今天热搜的“社会调剂”事件有种莫名其妙的时空关联。但片子温吞、寡淡。而且我现在不太喜欢是枝裕和老是在讲并且持续强化好人之间的善良纠葛与内心挣扎，却淡化导致这些悲剧的背后的坏人和坏事。我想怨怼，却不知道该怨谁？怨社会么？
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