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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
克隆人真的是解决离别更好的办法吗？我想应该不是。当日你是穷人得选项。
当科技发展到人类情感也能克隆，是悲剧还是喜剧？
克隆人题材科幻伦理片，关于克隆人和本体共存的问题讨论并不新鲜，本片对问题的探讨也浅尝辄止，最后落脚点在宣传人间温情上。画面和室内装置不错，风格很像前几年的《机械姬》
气质类型非常像 机械姬 ，是软科幻类型，感觉Apple最近出品的电影色调最近都趋于这个风格。不得不说，阿里的演技在这里彻底爆发，一颦一笑皆是戏，而且是那种稳稳的类型，看的人非常舒服。唯一的小缺憾是，可以做的更暗黑系。
有钳真好！只换不修。 我认为最大的败笔是前后2人面对面。都100%复制了，为什么不让克隆人坚信自己就是原来那个唯一的自己？
（但是说实话，我接受不了这种事）
不适感会有 但故事还是理想化了 所以处理的很好 结尾真的很扎心啊……
原主对克隆人的霸权在于：你要介入，借助，领取我的搭建的生命意义才得以存活。
and额…这个问题其实很好解决，就是身体可以有无数个，意识只能持续有一个，一个时间只允许一个，那么所谓的克隆，只是同一个意识在不同的没有灵魂的躯体间切换罢了。
导演也是编剧，牛！演员们的表演和拍摄剪辑也棒！
整片有种迷人的气质，拍得很美。软科幻，一直贯穿的是爱和关怀。
年度遗珠，无论是本片的质量还是阿里的表演，都堪称2021年为数不多的上乘之选，也凸显了学院奖的固步自封和对科幻题材的偏见。它营造了一个轻未来的世界，用一个身患绝症的人选择克隆出几乎和自己一模一样的人，瞒着不知自己即将死去的家人，继续他的陪伴和存在。本质上，它在探讨了临终关怀的自我和解，忒休斯之船那种自我同一性的困惑，也是一个人选择如何有尊严的死去等等情感面的问题，科幻元素是高概念设定的手段，却并非故事的核心动力和主要卖点，甚至于它更像一碗绝症梗的鸡汤，只是因为那种精致的摄影、颇具轻未来风的艺术设计，和阿里细腻熨帖的表演，有一种沁人心脾的味道。
各方面都似曾相识又都四平八稳的一部小清新科幻片。《天鹅挽歌》把对立面从人类与克隆人当中抽离出来，而把人类自身的情感与回忆这最难断舍离的一部分作为最强大的对立面来对抗克隆人取代自己，从宏观经济方面转换到个人情感方面，这就让这片子显得更加贴近个人，更能感同身受。我们最宝贵的就是自身的情感和回忆。这一点和斯派克·琼斯当年的《她》也异曲同工的地方。
要爱得怎样深沉又无私，才能承受如此这般巨大得吞噬自我的痛苦与孤独……
某镜没了，每年能看这么部作品也行呀。
天鹅挽歌，这个名字好悲惋。这部电影的质感也很apple commercial。科技造梦，醉后长眠。//3.5
最后一幕有些感动，但还是觉得一个人的所有记忆和经历都只属于自己，应该都随着自己离去。
三星半，演员很好，色调很好，取景很好，立面的家具也真的都很好，就是那个心态转折点不太够力，没能打动到我。
克隆人要解决的不是技术问题，是伦理问题，道德问题，是人能否取代上帝成为造物主的问题。很温情，只展示，把思考全部留给了观众，话说黑人真是不太好判断年龄啊。
结尾always have always will带给人的无力感，实在是一种最佳的留白方式。
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