The subject of Danièle Huillet and Jean-Marie Straub’s Der Tod des Empedokles (The Death of Empedocles, 1987) is the Greek pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles (c. 490 BC – 430 BC), who lived in the Greek colony of Agrigentum in Sicily. His theories are mentioned in several of Plato’s dialogues. He maintained that all matter is made up of four irreducible elements: water, earth, air and fire. A mystic and a poet, he is considered to be the founder of classical rhetoric. He is also thought to be the last Greek philosopher to write in verse; two fragments of his works survive: Katharmoi (Purifications) and Peri Phuseôs (On Nature). An advocate of democracy, he came into conflict with his fellow citizens of Agrigentum and, as result, was banished with his young disciple, Pausanius. When he was asked to return, he preferred to commit suicide by throwing himself into the active volcano at Mount Aetna.
The German writer Friedrich Hölderlin wrote two versions of Der Tod des Empedokles in 1798 and 1800, and a final third version in 1820, all three ultimately unfinished. They were conceived as five-act tragedies and all three differ in plot. According to Michael Hamburger, Hölderlin’s English-language translator,
the main reason why Hölderlin finished no version of the play must be that he remained too closely identified with Empedocles, at the very period in his life when his own view of the poet as philosopher, prophet and priest – and as tragic hero – was subject to perpetual crisis and re-examination.
Huillet-Straub’s The Death of Empedocles is based on Hölderlin’s first version (the longest of the three), whereas Black Sin is based on the third version.
电影在观感上做的这么无聊还不如去看篇论文，“don't spill”哈哈哈
我看不懂，但我大受震撼。已经雷老师又脱衣服了。
能不能出现一个不美丽的身体让我感受一下未来更多的情况。被这些美丽的样本冲昏了头脑，无法进行一些深刻的思考。//还有什么选择呢……除了承认他是精确冷静而充满original想象力的，vision当然要胜过（可能的）灵感来源MA和O。如此亲密，如此断言“body is reality."reality is your body. 现实太慢了，存在于你头脑和心灵的东西迫不及待渴求更强烈更简单。身体是他进化的圣殿。
Surgery is the new sex?
还是能看的，评价要结合国情，后半段确实草率，但也没有办法，如果建国可以成精，我寻思导演巴不得把贞子都嫰过来。大环境下能把场子圆成这个样子非常不错了，终于不再是出现幻觉或者嗑药的场景。
对器官的内在美学痴迷是《孽扣》的衍生视角，而人类对痛觉的追求则是《大都会》中存在主义的再次升级，柯能堡总想把人类自身不可避免的虚无感和失落感以一种特殊景观或者猎奇姿态呈现，但效果总是差强人意。内在美的对立面是内在丑，幼儿的解剖现场恰恰证实这一点，所谓的内在器官艺术不过是自我美化的手段，失去痛觉已经成为新世纪的原罪，切割，钻孔，缝合，肚子上的拉链，甚至给人体器官举办选美大赛，一切荒谬的奇观都是白费力气，对自我存在的探讨远不如《大都会》加长礼车那种封闭感和窒息感来的有效。剧本是过时的剧本，道具还是《感官游戏》那种硅胶质感，手术操作台是一个五彩斑斓的小黑肉团子，这都多少年了，柯能堡还来这一套，有点絮叨。美博会也不是什么新概念，人类已经改造身体好多年了，医美整形往外抽往里塞，痛不是原罪，美才是原罪。
四颗星全都献给同床手术xing 爱 💉 掏腹高chao器官视觉 还有我大爱的耳朵techno舞者💃🏽😎 把人对xing 感官嫁接到其他媒介以放大是cronenberg 熟练的把戏了 还是原味儿 还是那么让你在电影院里就能跟着horny .至于故事本身，与这些相比则似乎失去了光彩🤷♂️ 但作为电影节中恐怖类型片 都值得最少四星！
最后的结尾应该是为了过审吧
如果从网大的角度上确实有惊喜，多人角度讲同一个事情，结论是人比鬼可怕？多给半星以资鼓励！
柯南伯格的乡村科幻农业重金属赛博土家朋克电影：）
讲故事的人强调狐仙的凶残和强大，把听众带跑偏，将其作为一种手段，只为洗脱自己的罪孽。而村名习惯了靠别人的救济过活，一旦断水断粮就只剩仇恨，有钱在穷人眼里就是原罪。反而整个故事里最仁义的居然是土匪，非常讽刺。
其实还行的，表面鬼怪实则全是人心。比好些个大牌商业片好多了4星鼓励一下
对器官的内在美学痴迷是《孽扣》的衍生视角，而人类对痛觉的追求则是《大都会》中存在主义的再次升级，柯能堡总想把人类自身不可避免的虚无感和失落感以一种特殊景观或者猎奇姿态呈现，但效果总是差强人意。内在美的对立面是内在丑，幼儿的解剖现场恰恰证实这一点，所谓的内在器官艺术不过是自我美化的手段，失去痛觉已经成为新世纪的原罪，切割，钻孔，缝合，肚子上的拉链，甚至给人体器官举办选美大赛，一切荒谬的奇观都是白费力气，对自我存在的探讨远不如《大都会》加长礼车那种封闭感和窒息感来的有效。剧本是过时的剧本，道具还是《感官游戏》那种硅胶质感，手术操作台是一个五彩斑斓的小黑肉团子，这都多少年了，柯能堡还来这一套，有点絮叨。美博会也不是什么新概念，人类已经改造身体好多年了，医美整形往外抽往里塞，痛不是原罪，美才是原罪。
还是能看的，评价要结合国情，后半段确实草率，但也没有办法，如果建国可以成精，我寻思导演巴不得把贞子都嫰过来。大环境下能把场子圆成这个样子非常不错了，终于不再是出现幻觉或者嗑药的场景。
人类的未来是长肿瘤和吃垃圾…emmmmmm…
故事完整性差一些，但是演员演技在线，值得推荐。
早年的柯南伯格多酷 又变态又有趣 现在这都是个啥
依然是“身体恐怖”的柯南伯格，只是这次一点也不恐怖。进化论、内在美、新罪行——左、中、右安排得明明白白的政治隐喻。手术即性爱的概念就像空壳，说真的还不如钛呢，好歹钛是人跟车做爱。看完我也想吃塑料了...
人类发展到未来，痛感致命的部分被弱化，取而代之成为性快感。perform一语双关是手术也是表演，是人体学解剖学科学，也是艺术，更是艺术，被围观的性狂欢。
谢谢这部电影的所有人员、真的很久很久没看到能让人上头的网剧了，4星剧打5星，祝愿中国电影蒸蒸日上。
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