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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
有钳真好！只换不修。 我认为最大的败笔是前后2人面对面。都100%复制了，为什么不让克隆人坚信自己就是原来那个唯一的自己？
I love you，always have，always will. 于是一切有了意义。
很细腻的软科幻，堪比十五年前的暖暖内含光。
很难有电影会对人工智能、克隆人持乐观主义立场，《黑镜》《芸芸众生》《爱，死亡和机器人》所涉及的未来生活着力点通常是对人类本体感知力的剥夺，越俎代庖、伦理纠纷或者官能退化等潜在的威胁，此类剧集更多是要求诡异、荒诞、极端事件的戏剧性；而本片立场是“让机器人或者生化人作为一种情感服务”：人类是最后的宰制者，克隆人最终提供的情绪价值依旧是以人类本我认同的意愿为前提。所有生命体验、回忆的让渡对于本我而言是不得以而为之，而“为”或者“不为”同样需要强大的驱动，这个驱动一定是爱，爱是人之为人的情感复杂性的最高形式，是爱让他为了保护好妻子而让渡自己的整个人生；对于克隆人而言，只有懂得去爱，灵魂才完整。最后两周是对克隆人的一场出色的交叉验证。当克隆人叫妻子看着他的眼睛说出“爱”字就论证了人类的爱的伟大。
科幻+自省，故事讲得很好，没有多余的东西，赞！
老套的克隆设定，刻意设置的冲突，让这部电影看着非常拧巴，最重要的是这个所谓的爱与死亡的主题实在肤浅，尽管大部分世人都深陷于此——但其实这提醒了我一件事，那就是电影不是为了那些“成熟”的观众看的，而是为了更多没有看过和感受过的人拍摄。这正是艺术和人类的关系。
如果未来能有这样的技术，我愿意生活在这样虚假的真实中。男主演技是真的可以！
磨磨唧唧，这么一陈年老点子复套，无心意也就罢了，还既不文艺也不科幻。
为站在小房间凝视“我爱你”再加一星。是我非常喜欢的主题，但是聚焦点却不在科技与伦理，而是不带judge地展示一个人选择如何离开与被遗忘。It’s hard being left behind，只有狗记得你。爱情本质上还是利己：爱更久，存在更久。我太喜欢马赫沙拉的脸了。结尾正好是圣诞节。🎄🎄🎄
妻子和兒子的角度來說……他們有權知道這壹切……
最后的礼物太棒了，泪目。场景设计和背景音乐都好美~
分类：科幻/人性/爱情/剧情/哲学
男主一直不是我喜欢的颜，他的戏老是要快进着看。。。比如纸牌屋啥的
最后Jack留给Cameron的“礼物”真没必要 很拉垮 这地方疗养真的好
有趣的是，当我看到男女主角有一段时间分房睡的时候，我心中就对男主角有一丝犹疑，果然，他出轨了。男性的基本盘吗？
是不是一个梦
小清新文艺科幻 没有侧重于伦理/认知/被替代这些冲突性的角度 而是从情感上描绘 男主从愤怒到不甘到接受 最后的最后看着爱人对自己（的克隆体）说 i will love you always 释然放手 || 我觉得太悲伤了 T_T 个体明明都消亡了你爱的人和爱你的人却不知道 - 没有人会怀念你纪念你追悼你想着你流泪 他们只会和另一个你创造你无法参与的新的回忆。自私的我肯定不会做出男主的选择。
死亡与离别才叫生命完整，才令相爱的时光珍贵。如果我不在了，我希望有人知晓，时不时泛起的记忆带来泪花或微笑。如果我爱的人不在了，我一定不想要一个复制替代品，我要为那个真实活过的人疯狂嚎哭，日日夜夜思念哀悼。
虽然科幻得很玄幻，但是平实的叙述，精湛的演技，冲淡了基本上不可能的科技成就，很感人。
沉浸而克制，整部剧作还是欠些许火候，只是，最后一秒还是没绷住。
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