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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
1“学习的目的是什么？是一技立足？不，是获悉宇宙的存在之道”2“大道固然重要，诸子百家，但客观明了的生物形态学，也很重要，而且后者离宇宙之道更近”
《兹山鱼谱》：这是个探索世界的过程，这是个磨炼心境的过程，这是个追寻真知的过程，这是个正视人性的过程，这是个精神自由的过程。
理学和格物，入世和出世，民间疾苦声，自由平等观。若是流水账记录和商业片套路得以润化，真乃神片。海胆化身的青鸟也还是要躲在兹山中方能在污泥里飞过，任尔东西南北风。
明明挺好的诗，非得用现代韩语给观众翻译一遍，这就掉价了啊。反观日本，哪怕是最反英雄最无厘头的《电锯人》的主角，还会一脸遗憾愧疚地说：我没上过学，不认识汉字。这可是商业漫画，而《兹山鱼谱》是严肃的文艺黑白电影。虽然韩国有很多值得尊重的地方，但这种强烈的扭曲感我身为一个中国人实在觉得违和。
好电影，安静地看就好了（第一次写的短评被移除了呵呵）
读书是为了什么？恭喜韩国人拍出了展现东亚士大夫心境最好的一部电影。
昌大蓄了胡子有几分哥哥的神韵，小伙子前途无量，柳承龙这小诗作的真是有味儿极了，慕兄之情溢出屏幕。整部电影说的，不过是昌大那句“物物尽如此，独笑无人知。”世事和世人也无不如此。不过是要像鹤一样活着，还是做到心中无鹤，这倒是个终极命题。
看着韩国人2800万人民币拍出的《兹山鱼谱》，再想想中国电影都在拍什么，心里确实有点难过。
评分虚高。从视听语言来说还可以，很标准的剧本，但我觉得精神内核没找准，没突出刻画，没去深刻表达，这让人物传记型作品失去了灵魂（天主教思想如何影响主人公，如何突破理学思想束缚这些都没更深入去探讨，如果在这方面加强一些也许就能拍出精气神了）。这片子看上去更像是隐遁江湖的理学大师（与其历史人物所信奉的世界观是相悖的），而理学大师是看不到平民的，所以无给我的观感是主人公的形象混乱且矛盾。
长大了才知道怀有好奇心的成年人竟是少数。小时候学的那些郁郁不得志或者隐居的文人故事如今也感同身受...
韩国真是狂热的基督教国家啊，开头部分引起不适，后半段还算理智点。
以前的海岛是流放之地，现在的海岛是度假胜地。
想螺蛳壳里作道场，以小博大却力不能逮。相较日影，韩片完全不擅长说教思辨体悟自省这一类题材，台词不凝炼，意像不典型，情节不自然，片中的几首汉诗水平不敢恭维。无论中学西学儒教天主教，对于韩国而言都是舶来品，反思二手文化总显得隔靴搔痒。在匮乏深厚底蕴的情况下强行人文关怀蛮尴尬的，几番坐而论道也流于形式，空洞苍白机锋乏力，做不到醍醐灌顶。如果只企求国产片拍到这种流俗肤浅的水平，无疑是低估了中国文化的格局和气度，也低估了中国人反躬自省的能力和深度。
黑白画面有着淡雅的质感，是拍出了意境。只不过摄影依然不用心，末尾和《思悼》一模一样的回忆可以说差劲透了。
过誉了，情节相当浅薄、俗套，所谓的人文解读只是皮相之谈，略微讲了西学东渐和程朱理学（就提了几句话）。我反倒更期待咱们国家拍出这种题材的作品。
1、最喜岛内的闲暇时光，怡然自得，自由洒脱，流放不是惩罚是新生；2、师徒互补，一冲一淡，出世入世，秉性一致，殊途同归；3、谁能不想起那个“一蓑烟雨任平生”的东坡先生？田野乡间有趣事，污泥山中出贤人。
开头一种思悼的感觉，昌大去做官那段拍得有点垮，前面很好，两个人做鱼谱太好玩了
朝鲜时代的《海岸村恰恰恰》。扣一星是因为我更喜欢彩色电影。
一个满村鳐鱼换来的出生，钓遍黑山海下大鱼，却连读书认字都成了天下大难的贱民庶子。
很难过国内拍不出这种历史人文底蕴深厚的传记片
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